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Dormant 03 TJ AC issues

189 views 7 replies 4 participants last post by  Digger84  
#1 ·
Forgive me, but I let my TJ sit idle for the past several years. I would start it up and drive it just enough that I could get emissions check done on it each year, and then it would sit again until the next year. I know... I know... Shame on me. Trust me - it was my DD and has plenty of trail rash to prove that it has been used as intended over the years, but that was all BC (Before Children). Now the kids are old enough to enjoy the Jeep and after dusting it off and getting it cleaned up, I've found the AC isn't coming back to life like everything else did..

I found a questionable fuse behind the glove box and now I can see that the compressor runs intermittently - it will come on for a second or two then turn off for several seconds (more time off than on)...lather, rinse, repeat. I put some pressure gauges on and I see that when the compressor is running, the low side gets up to ~55psi and the high side gets to ~125 and then the compressor shuts off. When the compressor turns off, the low drops to ~25-30 and the high drops to ~100. I had a half can of R-134 on the shelf so I popped it onto the fill line on the gauge and let that run for a while. That bumped the low pressure up to ~60psi when the compressor would run, and the low pressure hard line would cool off, but that's about it. I hoped that maybe it was just a dry seal in the compressor or something that, after running for a while, would magically reseat itself, but after ~10-15 minutes I decided to shut 'er down for fear of doing more damage. I do hear a very faint hissing that SEEMS to be coming from near the compressor (it's so faint it's hard to pinpoint it with the fan and engine noise), but I don't see anything wet or visible leakage.

Any ideas of how to nail down the culprit?
 
#5 ·
True.

I think the low pressure is OK, but the high pressure is way too low from the charts I've found online - should be 225-250 but I'm only getting 125-150. I can't decide if the compressor is cutting off because high pressure is too low and it doesn't let it run long enough to actually build pressure OR if the system supposed to maintain closer to 225 without the compressor running and the high pressure switch is doing what it's supposed to. A/C was working like a champ for all the time I've had it (since 2006) without any leaks at all, but after it sat idle for a few years, now it's jacked up. Seems weird that it would start leaking after sitting idle. I guess the UV dye is the easiest thing to do at this point just to rule out (or not) the obvious.
 
#6 ·
Another option, get a vacuum pump, free loaner tool, and pull a vac and see if the system holds. If so, then charge with a known amount of Freon based on system capacity

then see if it holds. But remember, that while a system may hold a vacuum, negative pressure, it may not hold a charge, positive pressure.
 
#8 ·
you posted
"when the compressor is running, the low side gets up to ~55psi and the high side gets to ~125 and then the compressor shuts off. When the compressor turns off, the low drops to ~25-30 and the high drops to ~100"

when compressor shuts off high side drops and low side goes up as the pressure (refrigerant molecules)has to go somewhere so your numbers cannot be correct
low side should drop when compressor runs and high side should increase when compressor is running
when compressor shuts off the pressures become more equal as pressure from high sides bleeds over to low side